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Post by shatnerswig on Mar 6, 2010 10:39:58 GMT 10
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Post by Wes Gear on Mar 6, 2010 12:59:30 GMT 10
wiggy i am going to have ask you to step down from being a mod. your attempts at spamming this site with your disinfo has reached its end. wait............is that penn and teller? i fucking love those guys! ok new rule..........you can spread your disinfo as long as you do it via penn and teller.
seriously........i love the part about people who say 9/11 was planned and you can't convince me otherwise. like penn said "that's warning bell right there for bullshit. i real skeptic demands proof to be convinced"..........
good post agent wiggy wigman.
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Post by Wes on Mar 6, 2010 13:31:27 GMT 10
How does a jet fly? If jet fuel melts steel wont it melt the jet engine? After a few hours of flying wont the wings melt? Oh... that's why they crash all the time.
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Post by shatnerswig on Mar 6, 2010 14:04:42 GMT 10
How does a jet fly? If jet fuel melts steel wont it melt the jet engine? After a few hours of flying wont the wings melt? Oh... that's why they crash all the time. wes I'll let you in on a secret but you have to keep it under your hat ok? ... alright the truth of the matter as you can see in this very detailed diagram is that all jet engines are and that is how they dont melt ... I hope that clears things up for ya!
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Post by Rareclan on Mar 6, 2010 17:42:11 GMT 10
Penn and Teller, ...............DON"T make me laugh.
New act in town Penn,Teller and Jones.........Bastards!!!!!!
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Post by Wes Gear on Mar 7, 2010 1:47:55 GMT 10
wes the jet fuel alone would not do it. the fuel ignited material in the building. the impact of the crash exposed the support beams and knocked off the fire proof insulation.
fire melts steel. if it didn't we wouldn't have steel since it has to be forged in............ya guessed it............fire.
what people fail to realize is that the trade centers were supported more by the outside metal of the building than on the inside. the flaw with that design was that once the outer shell had been compromised all that was left was the central support beam in the middle of the tower.
look at the trade center wreckage. you see large chunks of the outer shell but nothing of the central beam. the outer shell is also why the towers went straight down. they basically collapsed in on themselves.
there is only one question that i consider fair............did we in any way shape form or fashion help the terrorist. not did we bring the building down or any of the other silly shit. helping them is a possible reality. the other junk is fantasy that clutters the road to any truth there may be. again its more exciting and interesting to think we planted thermite or secretly used explosives. no one wants the less climatic truth that if there were any foul play all we had to do is make sure the terrorists got the job done and they probably didn't even know america was behind their success.
so the way i see it until people put away the fairytales they don't deserve the truth.
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Post by Wes on Mar 7, 2010 2:33:23 GMT 10
Yeah Drex 911 really fucks me. All I know is it doesn't add up. Carbon Steel: Melting Point 1425 - 1540 C (2600 - 2800 F) Jet Fuel: Maximum burning temperature 980 C (1796 F) Jet Fuel: Open air burning temperatures 260-315 C (500-599 F) I don't know, can steel melt when exposed, for a few minutes, to a temperature of 315 C; Maximum 980 C. 1540 C - 980 C = 680 C or 2800 F - 1796 F = 1004 F Sounds like a big difference to me. But.... www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.htmlwww.mepetroleum.com/jet_fuel.htm
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Post by shatnerswig on Mar 7, 2010 5:54:42 GMT 10
wes the steel didn t have to melt for the building to collpse.. it just had to get to a tempurature to which it would be fatiuged enough to bend onder the weight it was supporting with enough of the remaining structural members bending under the tremendous weight the building would definatly collapse
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Post by Rareclan on Mar 7, 2010 7:55:20 GMT 10
Without Knowing,
I would just like to say that i see all sides of the equation but the indications are something does not add up.
Emotionally you just know that it is not correct.
Factually it is not correct.
Critically believing we are still pondering the answer.
A wise person once said to me a secret is only a secret if one person knows it and if many people know then it is a mystery.
So the answer is find the one person who knows the truth and beat the sh1t out of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2010 11:53:21 GMT 10
Without Knowing, I would just like to say that i see all sides of the equation but the indications are something does not add up. Emotionally you just know that it is not correct. Factually it is not correct. Critically believing we are still pondering the answer. A wise person once said to me a secret is only a secret if one person knows it and if many people know then it is a mystery. So the answer is find the one person who knows the truth and beat the sh1t out of them. I think I know just the man.............
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