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Post by Wes Gear on Mar 7, 2010 12:57:42 GMT 10
rareclan i do believe there is more to the story. i do believe that we need to know what that is. what i don't go for is all the these faulty theories about the buildings that so called experts try to pawn off on the public to get them to ask questions.
all it takes is for one part of a conspiracy/theory to be proven false and the whole thing falls apart. if there were sinister plans behind the 9/11 attacks then those responsible are loving all these crazy theories because they know it will hide the real story.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2010 13:04:47 GMT 10
rareclan i do believe there is more to the story. i do believe that we need to know what that is. what i don't go for is all the these faulty theories about the buildings that so called experts try to pawn off on the public to get them to ask questions. all it takes is for one part of a conspiracy/theory to be proven false and the whole thing falls apart. if there were sinister plans behind the 9/11 attacks then those responsible are loving all these crazy theories because they know it will hide the real story. Isnt that always the way though, I can get 50 experts that will say the buildings couldnt have come down like that, and tomorrow will get another 50 to say the exact opposite. I was watching "Life Without People" the other day, and they were saying all the buildings built after 1950 odd, would be the first to fall down once the matinence stops. The new steel construction around a concrete core comes down very easlily when the core or outer shell is damaged. And as I said before, the best way to combat a conspiracy theory is to get the loons inside it, which is what we have now. We will never have the answers. Governments of any perssuasion will never release the truth even if they did know it. Would bring down the entire system. I still, and will always believe they knew it was coming.
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Post by concrete on Mar 26, 2010 18:40:36 GMT 10
Right. Regardless that all of you think I'm some pisshead who does nothing but moan and bitch. Thats my weekend hobby. In the real world, I'm an engineer. Now. For a basic explanation on how a tower is built. Think of a skeleton. With the spine in the middle supporting the wieght of the body and holding the structure up. That how towers work. The main core (usually where the liftshafts are), support beams that spread out horizontally from the shaft and a supported by external colums to for the floors. Below is a project I was involved with (the one on the left) but on the right you can clearly see the concrete 'spine' that supports the floor frame. Now many buildings also have steel spines to support the floors as the WTC buildings did. Still with me? Good. Now, a jet flying into a building would take out most of the support columns in the path that the jet was taking. So, one side of the building could have many support columns cut. Fire may cause metal fatiuge of the remaining beams above the flames, and on one side of the structural spine. This could weaken them and cause them to fail due to the uneven loading on the structure. You would get this: Instead, we get this: (I suppose those flashes near the bottom at 3sec, was just the last of the 'jet fuel' burning off?) For this to happen, every structural member, plus the spine would have to fail at the same time. The jets were the slight of hand trick. People would never believe, just fire could do this. They would also find it hard to believe that not only could enough explosives get into the building to cause this, but the amount of time it would take a terrorist to set the charges. But a big fecking dramatic show of a jet crashing into the building first, then that’s all they’ll remember. They won’t question if the fires vaporised the jets, melted enough steel to collapse a building, how did the passports of the ‘terrorists’ manage to be found in the rubble. I honestly don’t believe it is a question of how the buildings came down. But WHY? Who stood to benefit? 8+ years of war, has got to make money for someone. Metal fatiuge, my arse!!
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Post by Rareclan on Mar 26, 2010 19:23:20 GMT 10
Your arse my arse,money power with technology we don't know about if they have it they will use it for more money and power. It's about time we took the power back because our ARSES are on the line.
Always follow the money ! ! !
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Post by brillbilly on Mar 27, 2010 3:03:59 GMT 10
after all that has been said i still think that the towers and building 7 were brought down in a controlled demolition,the whole day was planned many months in advance and it worked exactly as planned,just like the great fire of london,just like 7/7/7 london bombings
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