OOPARTS-Things that shoul not be

[blacky]

Artifacts that dont fit in with 'Human History'

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I have listed the "Crystal Skulls" in the debunked theroies thread.
I dont believe they are real anymore, I once did, but not now.

[blacky]

There are alot of crystal skulls one of which is suposed to be the real one or thats how the theorys go!
It was suposed to have been found in south America but sold off! then loads more started to turn up that have been looked at and proven as fake!
Where these fakes made off the finds of the real one?
there are a couple of items in these vids that have since been proven as fakes but then there still are more that arent!

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Sept 12, 2009 2:07:00 GMT 10 blacky said:

There are alot of crystal skulls one of which is suposed to be the real one or thats how the theorys go!
It was suposed to have been found in south America but sold off! then loads more started to turn up that have been looked at and proven as fake!
Where these fakes made off the finds of the real one?
there are a couple of items in these vids that have since been proven as fakes but then there still are more that arent!

Yeah I know, but the crystal skull thing really disappionted me, I really liked that story, especially the way they couldnt work out how they were made, turns out not to be true.
I think the most famous ones have now been proven to be 19th century fakes, it puts the whole story into doubt for me.

There was a lot of faking going on on the 19th century by "antiquities"dealers looking to make a quick buck.

I did see a doco on the woman who claimed she found the skull in south america, turns out that story was bullshit as well, the skull was bought in Paris from a dodgy dealer.
I cant find that doco anywhere, but if I do I will post it.

I just wonder if the whole story about the 12 skulls was fabricated to sell these things, or did they find the story and fabricated the skulls to fit it.

[shatnerswig]

mitchell-hedges.com/en/homThe questionable origin of the Mitchell-Hedges skull has not deterred belief in the skull's mysterious properties. Rather, at least 13 other skulls have mysteriously appeared over the years. Some of these skulls are claimed to have magical origins and healing powers. However, a study of several crystal skulls by the British Museum in 1996 indicates that the only magic involved in the creation of these skulls was in keeping their fraudulent origin a secret. The study concluded that the skulls were made in Germany within the past 150 years. The recent origin explains how they were made with tools unavailable to the ancient Mayans or Aztecs.

Using electron microscopes, the researchers found that two of the skulls possessed straight, perfectly-spaced surface markings, indicating the use of a modern polishing wheel. Genuine ancient objects would show haphazard tiny scratches from the hand-polishing process.*
A similar result occurred in 1992 when the Smithsonian received a crystal skull from an anonymous source who claimed it was an Aztec skull that had been bought in Mexico City in 1960. Research by the Smithsonian concluded that several crystal skulls popular with the New Agers originated with Eugene Boban, a Frenchman of dubious character. Boban dealt in antiques in Mexico City between 1860 and 1880, and seems to have acquired his skulls from a source in Germany. Jane MacLaren Walsh of the Smithsonian concluded that several crystal skulls held in museums were manufactured between 1867 and 1886 ("Crystal Skulls and Other Problems," Smithsonian Institute Press, Washington DC, 1996).

more skullduggery?

Other so-called ancient crystal skulls have had histories as dubious as the Mitchell-Hedges skull. For example, a skull called "Max" was supposedly given to the people of Guatemala by a Tibetan healer. Another pair of skulls, known as the British Skull and the Paris Skull, was allegedly found in Mexico in the late 19th century by mercenaries. They are very similar and one may have been the model for the other. The Paris skull is said to represent Mictlantecuhtli, the Aztec god of the dead. It is not alleged to have any occult powers, however.

The Mayan Skull and the Amethyst Skull were allegedly found in Guatemala early in this century. "Nick" Nocerino claims he met a shaman in 1949 while traveling in Mexico who led him to a Mayan priest who said he was authorized to sell the skulls because the village needed money for food. Nick didn't buy them, but he studied them scientifically and found some startling things such as "its true origin is cloaked in mystery" and it had the power to give him hours of meaningful visions.

There isn't a shard of evidence that these crystal skulls are mysterious in any way. What is mysterious is their continued popularity and the continued mythology as to their origins and
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[brillbilly]

there is one thing that bothers me about the Mitchell-Hedges skull being proclaimed a fake and that THE SMITHSONIAN,i dont trust it as far as i could spit and i will dig out the hewlet packard lab report that states that the Mitchell-Hedges skull has some very strange features,like its x/y axis or the fact that it can polarise light or the fact that it was carved from a huge block of pizo quarts. the smithsonian is run by the freemasonic order and they will supress knowledge,if it is controversial.the smithsonian if a front,its like mainstream tv

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Sept 16, 2009 14:28:49 GMT 10 brillbilly said:

there is one thing that bothers me about the Mitchell-Hedges skull being proclaimed a fake and that THE SMITHSONIAN,i dont trust it as far as i could spit and i will dig out the hewlet packard lab report that states that the Mitchell-Hedges skull has some very strange features,like its x/y axis or the fact that it can polarise light or the fact that it was carved from a huge block of pizo quarts. the smithsonian is run by the freemasonic order and they will supress knowledge,if it is controversial.the smithsonian if a front,its like mainstream tv

Your not going all NWO on me are you Brill.

Its not just the marks on it, its the questionable heritage, coming from a 19th century french antique dealer.
Its dodgy at best.

[shatnerswig]

now heres some real ooparts!yea baby yea!