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Post by blacky on May 13, 2010 4:45:55 GMT 10
Ancient temple found under Lake Titicaca Divers went as deep as 30m in their exploration The ruins of an ancient temple have been found by international archaeologists under Lake Titicaca, the world's highest lake. A terrace for crops, a long road and an 800-metre (2,600 feet) long wall was also found under the waters of the lake, sited in the Andes mountains between Bolivia and Peru. Dating back 1,000 to 1,500 years ago, the ruins are pre-Incan. They have been attributed to the indigenous Tiwanaku or Tiahuanaco people, said Lorenzo Epis, the Italian scientist leading the Atahuallpa 2000 scientific expedition. The holy temple measures 200m by 50m (660ft by 160ft) almost twice the size of an average football pitch. More than 200 dives were made into the lake, to depths of as much as 30m (100ft), to record the ruins on film. The Incas, who built Machu Picchu, believed they originated from the lake The explorers found the temple after following a submerged road, in an area of the lake not far from Copacabana town. The complete findings of the 30-member team, backed by the scientific group Akakor Geographical Exploring, are to be published in November. The team also hopes to eventually raise the archaeological remains to the surface. Legends of lost city The lake has long drawn fascination with various legends around it, including one of an underwater city called Wanaku and another of Inca gold lost by the Spanish. The temple exists, but there is no submerged city Lorenzo Epis The Incas also regarded the lake as the birthplace of their civilisation, and in their myth, the Children of The Sun emerged out of the waters. Stories of the lost treasure were enough to draw the famous French oceanographer Jacques Cousteau to explore the lake. However, he discovered only ancient pottery. Akakor diver Lorenzo Epis in the lake National Geographic also launched an expedition in 1988. The Tiahuanaco culture lived on the shores of the lake before becoming part of the Incan empire, based in Cusco, Peru. The Bolivian Government has said it will provide financial and technical support to preserve the ruins. "This means our civilisations have left more footprints than we had thought," said Antonio Eguino, Bolivia's vice-minister of culture.
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Post by brillbilly on May 14, 2010 5:13:44 GMT 10
nice find blacky,i will go get any info on this i can,next week when i get back my big boy pc
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Post by shatnerswig on May 14, 2010 5:58:49 GMT 10
now ... how bout that city of gold? who s with me?
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Post by blacky on May 14, 2010 6:35:01 GMT 10
now ... how bout that city of gold? who s with me? lol cheers brills! shatners the legends are in south america that the cradle of their civilisations came from the lake of titicaca, this could be a very good find as it must be very old older than they say as its in the lake! now new evidence has come to light saying that lake titicaca used to be at sea level and not as high as it is now! look at the thread I put on here about the link to easter islands and south america! the old land bridge they have found that is now under the ocean that could of linked easter island to south america! interesting!!!!
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Post by brillbilly on May 18, 2010 5:06:37 GMT 10
YONAGUNI AND PERU The very first moments after the discovery of the Yonaguni monument there may have been some doubt about its artificiality, due to its large scale. However, anybody interested in archaeology must have realized soon that there are similar enormous structures at other places in the world, the best known being that in Egypt. However, the most relevant are the ones from South America, specifically Peru, because they have a considerable likeness to the Yonaguni finds, as the following comparison of images will show (in each case: Yonaguni right), Peru left): The comparison seems to show considerable stylistic similarities between the architecture of the Yonaguni and (pre-) Inca monuments. First of all there is the similarity in overall lay-out of the two top pictures. Secondly, there is the basic rectangular structure, heightened the use of some non-straight angles, in all four pictures. Note how in all cases the regularity enforced by rectangular features seems to have been intertwined with enforced irregularity within these patterns: when there is something like a staircase, almost no step is the same as any other. The second common feature is the way rounded structures are used in the rare case they used at all. In the Yonaguni case these are the two holes and the round boulder. In the Inca case there is a similar rare set of holes at Quenko, see below: [img src="http://www.altarcheologie.nl/south_america/gallery_peru_sculptures_1_files/perusp12_five.jpg[/iimg]. www.altarcheologie.nl/south_america/gallery_peru_glaced_stone_files/quenko4_quenko_detail.jpg"]
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Post by brillbilly on May 18, 2010 5:14:40 GMT 10
ok i found this but its saying it was found in 2000? Ancient Temple Ruins Found Under Lake Titicaca
LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) - The remains of what is thought to be a 1,000- to 1,500-year-old temple have been found below the waters of South America's lake Titicaca, a scientific expedition said Tuesday.
``We've found what appears to have been a 200-meter (660 feet) long, 50-meter (160 feet) wide holy temple, a terrace for crops, a pre-Incan road and an 800-meter (2,600 feet) long containing wall,'' said Lorenzo Apis, the Italian scientist leading the expedition in a region of the lake around 90 miles northeast of the Bolivian capital La Paz.
Lake Titicaca. Click and drag photo to resize.
The expedition ``Atahuallpa 2000,'' backed by the international scientific group Akakor Geographical Exploring, made over 200 dives into water 65 to 100 feet deep to record the remains on film and with photographs. The expedition will publish complete findings of its 18-day study in November and plans to eventually raise archeological remains to the surface.
The ruins were found in an area of the lake between the town of Copacabana and the popular tourist destinations of the Island of the Sun and Island of the Moon.
The research involved 10 scientists from Italy, 10 from Brazil, five Bolivians, two Germans and a Romanian. Lake Titicaca, some 12,464 feet above sea level, lies on the border between Bolivia and Peru, and is the highest navigable lake in the world.
The Tihuanacu culture lived on its shores before they became part of the Incan empire with its base in Cusco, Peru. ``All this means our civilizations have left more footprints than we had thought,'' said Antonio Eguino, Bolivia's vice minister of culture, whose government pledged financial and technical support to preserve and protect the ruins.
Yahoo World News - August 23 2000
Relics Of Lake Titicaca Pre-Dates Incas
By Alex Bellos - September 13 2000
Lake Titicaca is 3,800m above sea level, and is the world's highest navigable lake. The ruins of what is thought to be a huge ancient temple have been discovered by archaeologists diving beneath Lake Titicaca in the Andes between Bolivia and Peru.
One international team of scientists announced the recent finding after making more than 200 dives in Titicaca.
"What appears to have been a 200-metre-long 50-metre-wide holy temple, a terrace for crops, a pre-Incan road and a 700-metre-long containing wall," said Lorenzo Epis, the Italian leading the Atahuallpa 2000 expedition. Ceramic artifacts were also found on the lake’s floor.
Titicaca has long been the subject of legends about a lost underwater city, but there has been little research because of the technical difficulties of diving at altitude. While a submerged city has not been found, Mr. Epis said the ruins appeared to be 1,000 to 1,500 years old.
It thus pre-dates the Incas and could point to the Tihuanaco people, who lived on Titicaca’s before becoming part of the Incan empire.
"This means our civilizations have left more footprints than we had thought," said Antonio Eguino, Bolivia’s vice-minister of culture. However Mr. Eguino denied that the structure was a temple.
"The information we have indicates they found a wall that we believe was part of a terraced agricultural field," he said. "There is no evidence indicating the wall was part of a temple."
"It is difficult to say at this stage exactly what the wall is, but it is obviously an enormous construction," Dr. Eduardo Vinhaes, 38, a doctor and diver in the team, said. The group found what they believe to be a temple a short boat ride away from the site of the wall.
"We set out to look for signs of ancient civilizations but we found something completely different and much bigger than we expected," Dr Vinhaes said. In addition to the practical difficulties, the research project had to contend with a worried public, who had not been informed of the project. Diving was delayed for four days because of the district of the local population on the Island of the Sun, for whom the lake is sacred.
Mr. Eguino criticized the way the group treated the Bolivian archaeologist who guided them to the site, noting that he was not even mentioned at their news conference
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Post by blacky on May 22, 2010 4:55:13 GMT 10
SEE NOW AGAIN!!! whos the man!!!!brills is the man! love you brills!
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Post by brillbilly on May 24, 2010 5:02:07 GMT 10
SEE NOW AGAIN!!! whos the man!!!!brills is the man! love you brills! ;D lol i wish , but love ya to
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