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Post by concrete on Jan 31, 2011 3:43:52 GMT 10
Hmm...
Why does it have two shadows?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 11:08:48 GMT 10
I know nothing of long range camera distortion but that, to me, looks like a triangle.
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Post by Wes Gear on Jan 31, 2011 12:15:29 GMT 10
Look I'm on my phone so I can't go pic hunting but a fucking satellite with its solar panels opened would look like a triangle. Don't forget that unlike viewing an Earth satellite where you would look up and see it from bottom to top a lunar satellite would be viewed top to bottom.
The unique way the moon is lit by the sun would cause the shadows that everyone seems stuck on. Forget that the OBJECT itself is moving exactly like a satellite let's focus on the shadow.......come guys get your heads out your ass. You're looking at a shadow of something traveling very fast above the lunar surface where the shadow is almost washed out by the same light source that created it.
Think about it. If this was cgi the guy would have slowed it down. These stupid fucks are too proud of their amateurish attempts to fake something to make it whiz by that fast.
Again......shadow is in line with the lighting of the moon. Or you can believe it's an American craft that we love to fly around the moon so every telescope in the world could see us. Oh and we do it at an altitude that puts us at risk of colliding with lunar satellites. Yeah that sounds sane.
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Post by Wes on Jan 31, 2011 12:25:28 GMT 10
Yeah Jessie I suppose I am looking at the shadow because it is the key here. It's great to hear you think the shadow is real because I trust your expertise in this area. Secretly I was hoping you would defend the shadow. I also get your point on the shape of the object. And as you said it could be one of many satellites orbiting the Moon at the moment. I just like the idea of it being something more exotic.
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Post by Wes Gear on Jan 31, 2011 12:56:53 GMT 10
Wes my friend I also want things like this to be something more than what they are. Which is why it pisses me off to no end when idiots like the guy who took the vid lie about what they have captured. This guy knew it was a satellite. He had his equipment setup to catch it. You can tell he was looking for the sat. The focus wasn't on the moon but the space above it. With the equipment he admits to having he can get a whole lot closer to the lunar surface than he was. He probably checked out the orbits around the moon and saw where and when to look for one.
Also something I don't think has been addressed is the size of the object. It was small. Too small to be a craft. But the perfect size for a lunar satellite. And yes you can judge the size based on the relative scale of the moon and the focal length of the telescope at the time. Also smaller objects tend to have their shadows warped, washed out, or multiplied when lit be a very bright source. Depending on the angle of the light source and the texture of the surface that the shadow is cast on. Then you have to account for the speed of the object lit.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 1, 2011 5:10:21 GMT 10
how close to the moon surface would that object have to be to cast that shadow? if the object is small?
im not saying its an alien craft or satelight,i just have my reservations about how close it is to the moon regarding shadow.
it may move just like a satillight,ie from left to right but so could any object that moves accross the luna surface in a linier line be classed as moving just like a satillight!
These are just inquiries as i dont agree that something that may move like a satillight is 100% a satillight!
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Post by Wes on Feb 1, 2011 5:15:47 GMT 10
The object is probably bigger than it looks. In that case it would be further from the surface than it looks to be.
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Post by Wes Gear on Feb 1, 2011 5:39:55 GMT 10
No. It's small. The moon has no cloud cover or atmosphere and is brightly lit by the sun. It doesn't have to be close to the surface to cast a shadow.
Brill you are mistaken. Satellites move like satellites. Nothing else moves like they do. Hence why they are called satellites. That is what so many do not understand when they mistake satellites for UFOs here on earth. Satellites have a distinct speed and movement. You can't mistake it if you know what it looks like.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 1, 2011 5:43:24 GMT 10
The object is probably bigger than it looks. In that case it would be further from the surface than it looks to be. well this object could be ISS/satilight/ufo/military as theres no clarity in the footage and no shadow so it must be hi
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Post by Wes on Feb 1, 2011 6:21:17 GMT 10
Yeah Brill that looks more like a Satellite.
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