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Post by Wes Gear on Feb 5, 2010 23:48:56 GMT 10
thanks brill i had read a study at one time but i am bad about forgetting where the hell i seen stuff.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 6, 2010 0:23:14 GMT 10
your welcome,i dont think this is as xtreme as some may think but it is relitivly new and theres not much about in mainstream on this idea
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Post by Wes Gear on Feb 6, 2010 0:34:22 GMT 10
sure isn't brill. but does it not make more sense to you then the opposite theory? thats what i like about it. it was just taken for granted that the superior being had to evolve from the lesser one. there is no natural law that says that has to be the way it works.
you know brill i'm thinking this theory might have been researched a lot sooner had it not given wings to the religious people who like to think we are special. you know scientists have to hate giving them anything to help their cause. even though it doesn't the church folk will think it does.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 6, 2010 0:45:38 GMT 10
sure isn't brill. but does it not make more sense to you then the opposite theory? thats what i like about it. it was just taken for granted that the superior being had to evolve from the lesser one. there is no natural law that says that has to be the way it works. you know brill i'm thinking this theory might have been researched a lot sooner had it not given wings to the religious people who like to think we are special. you know scientists have to hate giving them anything to help their cause. even though it doesn't the church folk will think it does. i agree,i found this site and it got some great stuff in it ;D Human Origins Revolutionized An Upright Ancestor for the Apes The discovery of an ancient fossil in Moroto, Uganda from 21 million years ago was the first sign of a major flaw in our models of human evolution. It is almost identical to a modern human lumbar vertebra. But it was just one fossil against a world full of scientific opinion that humans, with their upright bipedal walking did not emerge until the chimpanzee-human split 6 million years ago. Then fossils of another upright bipedal ape - Oreopithecus - were found. Then another - Pierolapithecus. And then Sahelanthropus. First there was one. Now there are four upright bipedal species of apes before the chimp-human split. Paleoanthropology as a field has not yet come to grips with the revolutionary implications. The first "human" was probably Morotopithecus and probably lived 21 million years ago. The existing apes have a human ancestor.
For fifty years we have defined the first humans by the acquisition of upright bipedal posture in creatures like Lucy (Australopithecus afarensis) who had brains like other apes. However, it now appears that based on this definition human history must reach back to the Miocene of 21 million years ago www.uprightape.net/
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Post by Wes Gear on Feb 6, 2010 0:47:18 GMT 10
cool find brill. i just put it that site in my speed dial.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 6, 2010 0:55:45 GMT 10
sweet,i just looked in on it and it may throw the whole darwin/religion thing wide open,and that doesnt suprise me one bit lol,darwin was not totaly wrong about most animals but he was not totaly right about humans
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Post by Wes Gear on Feb 6, 2010 1:23:02 GMT 10
great point about darwin brill. unlike einstein darwin's greatest claim to fame wasn't a set of rules and laws that have to be obeyed for the most part. he just got people thinking about the subject. too many people have followed his initial assumptions as though they were e=mc2. that is just not the case.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 6, 2010 1:30:38 GMT 10
studying birds and arriving at humans,lol yeah i see the problems
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2010 7:03:03 GMT 10
I am looking forward to this movie, I think it will give really good insight into Darwin and the battles he suffered for his theory, both internal and external.
No matter the holes, still a revolutionary thinker.
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Post by Wes on Feb 10, 2010 17:25:56 GMT 10
The existing apes have a human ancestor. Quote: Brill Yeah Brill I think I have met him, lol.
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