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Post by blacky on Feb 18, 2010 22:30:19 GMT 10
A large area of mostly unexplored sub-arctic wasteland and coniferous forest called the Siberian taiga lies just south of the arctic tundra. Yakutia is an area of one hundred square kilometers which is very sparsely populated wilderness.  One particular area is said to contain strange dome shaped objects or iron houses half buried in the permafrost. Local legends associate the domes with the ancient demons of the taiga and the local inhabitants tell tales of the odd effects they have on wildlife and people. An unknown illness which kills those who stay too long caused the local tribes to call the place 'Uliuiu Cherkechekh' The valley of death.  The dome-shaped objects are said to be made of a copper-like metal, only it can't be scatched or damaged, has razor-sharp edges and is unlike any known material. The thing is that even a sharpened cold chisel will not mark the ‘cauldrons’ (we tried more than once). The metal doesn’t break off and can’t be hammered. On copper a hammer would definitely have left noticeable dents. But this ‘copper’ is covered over with a layer of some unknown material resembling emery. Yet it’s not an oxidation layer and not scale — it can’t be chipped or scratched either. Mikhail Koretsky   The domes are scattered throughout a large area and there are said to be many of them. Some are standing on columns while others appear to have sunken into the ground leaving only the dome on top visable. Most have a small man-hole like cover or opening on the very top. Inside them the temperature is warm despite the bitter cold outside and there are even reports of people seeing the bodies of 'black one-eyed beings'. This along with nearby patches of odd vegitation and the illness with which thier visitors become afflicted, make the stories of the domes very intriguing and certainly worthy of further investigation. Some people claim that the domes tie in to the Tunguska incident and other reports of fireballs both falling from the sky and coming up from underground. A nearby series of gorges known as 'the laughing chasms' are said to also be linked with the fireballs and a local legend which tells of fiery giant who dwells inside. The 1950s saw the soviet military use the area for atomic testing due to it's remoteness and very sparse population. One test proved suprising because for unknown reasons, the ten megaton bomb produced a twenty to thirty megaton explosion. Many hypotheses for the origin of the domes exist from crashed alien spacecraft or ancient power stations to a weapon built by extraterrestrials early in the history of mankind. Whatever their true nature it seems there is, at the very least, an incentive for archeological investigation into the objects and area in general. Check the links for more information Linkys: www.forteantimes.com... www.ufodata.co.uk... www.astrologycom.com... library.thinkquest.org... |
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Post by shatnerswig on Feb 19, 2010 3:39:23 GMT 10
this is cool never heard of these domes before .....
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Post by Wes on Feb 19, 2010 16:56:32 GMT 10
TRAVELLERS’ TALESThere are modern tales of travellers who stumbled upon the taiga cauldrons. Some sound plausible, others more outrageous. Mikhail Korecky from Vladivostok wrote to the newspaper Trud that he’d been to the Valley of Death three times. The first was in 1933, when he was 10 years old; the second in 1937; and finally in 1947 with some friends. He saw a total of seven ‘cauldrons’; all looked mysterious and measured 6–9m in diameter. The vegetation around them was peculiar, more lush than the surrounding plants, with giant burdock leaves, long stalks and weird grass twice as tall as a man. On the last visit, Korecky and his companions spent the night in one ‘cauldron’; although nothing dramatic occurred that night, one friend lost all his hair within a month and Korecky developed two small pustules on his cheek which never healed. In 1936, a geologist visiting the Olguidakh River (the “place with a cauldron”), found a ‘cauldron’ that was not completely submerged. A smooth hemisphere of metal 2cm thick and with razor-sharp edges, it was reddish in colour. Barely a fifth of it was above ground and the opening in its vault was accessible to a person sitting on a reindeer. The geologist sent its description to the capital city Yakutsk, but no one paid any attention. A discovery by an old Evenki hunter met with similar lack of interest. In 1971, he claimed to have found an “iron burrow” in the ground in which he saw the bodies of skinny, black, one-eyed beings in “iron costumes”. No one believed him, despite his willingness to show them to anyone who was interested. Unfortunately, he has since died. Not until 1979 did a serious archaeological expedition set out from Yakutsk. Despite the fact that it had a guide - an old settler who had seen the 'cauldrons' in his youth - the expedition failed to locate them. The area where they were said to be had changed dramatically in the intervening years. The vegetation had grown so thick that one couldn’t see more than 10 steps ahead, making discovery a matter of luck. Russian ufologists have proposed that these ‘cauldrons’ are the remains of UFOs, wrecked in an accident or an ancient aerial battle. Russian researcher Dr Valerey Uvarov argues that they are connected to a power plant located deep inside the Earth, a weapon to protect our planet from dangers in outer space. Extraterrestrials built them in ancient times, he says, and now they operate automatically, having shot down the Tunguska meteorite in 1908, the Chulym meteorite in 1984, and most recently, the Vitim meteorite in 2002. Today, he alleges, the radiation levels in the area are rising again and wildlife is leaving the woods as if in preparation for some imminent event. www.forteantimes.com/features/fbi/2800/valley_of_death.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2010 18:31:04 GMT 10
Interesting story, but until something new pops up, thats all it is.
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Post by brillbilly on Feb 19, 2010 22:45:39 GMT 10
nice,i had read about these,i new them as the taiga cauldrons but i didnt have pc to check up on the story at the time but now i can and will see if i can find more,i may even use google earth lol
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Post by shatnerswig on Feb 20, 2010 11:57:49 GMT 10
Interesting story, but until something new pops up, thats all it is. thanks for the input dr killjoy lol ;D |
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Post by blacky on Feb 22, 2010 1:00:40 GMT 10
Interesting story, but until something new pops up, thats all it is. shut up low these are real unless you can prove them fake mr disinfo!!!! |
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Post by blacky on Feb 22, 2010 1:05:01 GMT 10
Mysterious cauldrons in Siberia´s “ Valley of Death ”
On the web pages of mystery lovers, we read about strange objects “guaranteed” to be of extraterrestrial origin and made out of an unknown material which scientists have not yet classified. Right away, one wonders—is such a thing still possible these days? The answer seems simple. Although these mysterious objects often bear detailed descriptions, no one knows their exact location and there are no photographs. It seems as though it’s all fantasy.
The Siberian taiga is perhaps as unspoiled and unexplored as the Amazon jungle. More than 100,000 square kilometers of western Yakutia are completely uninhabited, devoid of any sort of trails. The human foot treads on this area very rarely. It’s a thick forest growth with uprooted trees and sprawling swamps with swarms of mosquitoes. In short, an ideal birthplace for myths and legends about strange creatures and anomalous zones where bizarre things happen. The local wild man Chuchuna may not even be anything exceptional; the most attention is given to a peculiar legend about the Valley of Death and its “cauldrons”. Nomadic Evenki, Yakutians and lone hunters who happened to wander into these territories have for long discovered odd houses shaped like red hemispheres protruding from the perpetually frozen ground. The formations were smooth, with an opening at the top, with a winding stairwell leading to a circular gallery with numerous metal rooms. Despite outdoor temperatures of forty below, it was pleasantly warm inside.
Cauldrons that kill
The Yakutians called these mysterious houses “olguis”, or cauldrons. They are said to have been forged out of an unknown metal, copper-like in color, but incredibly hard, with razor-sharp edges. No one has ever been able to cut off even a fragment. Over time, the natives began to notice that the cauldrons are slowly sinking into the frozen ground and disappearing, leaving behind large circular stains of dissimilar vegetation. These places have always signified danger for all living things. A person’s head would start to spin, and he would be struck by an unknown, but fatal illness. For this reason, the elders prohibited the others from coming to these parts, declaring the region cursed and naming it Uliuiu Cherkechekh— Valley of Death .
In 1936, one geologist found a cauldron that was not completely submerged in the ground near the Olguidakh (“place with a cauldron”) River. A smooth, metal hemisphere with razor-sharp edges and reddish in color protruded out of the ground. Its walls were about two centimeters thick. Barely a fifth of it was above ground, but the opening in the dome vault was accessible by a person sitting on a reindeer. The geologist sent its description to the capital city Yakutsk , but no one paid it any attention.
There are numerous tales of travelers who stumbled upon the taiga cauldrons. Some sound plausible, others seem outrageous. Mikhail Koretsky from Vladivostok wrote to the newspaper Trud that he’d been to the Valley of Death three times. The first time was in 1933, when he was ten years old, the second time in 1937 and finally in 1947 with his friends. He saw a total of seven cauldrons; all looked mysterious and measured six to nine meters in diameter. The vegetation around them seemed oddly unnatural, more lush than the surrounding plants. Giant burdock leaves, long stalks and weird grass twice as tall as a human. They spent the night in one cauldron and nothing major happened to anyone, but one member lost all his hair after a month and two small pustules that never healed appeared on the cheek on which Koreckij slept.
These places were located in a distant region, accessible only by helicopter, and the cauldrons never fascinated anyone enough to warrant an expedition. The discovery of one old Eveni hunter met with similar disinterest. In 1971, he found in the ground an iron burrow, in which there lay skinny, black, one-eyed beings in iron costumes. No one believed him, despite his willingness to show them to anyone. In the meantime, he unfortunately died. Only in 1979 did an archaeological expedition set out from the capital city Yakutsk . Despite the fact that it had a guide—an old settler who saw the cauldrons in his youth—the expedition was unsuccessful: it didn’t locate the cauldrons. The area where they were found had changed dramatically over the years. The vegetation is so thick that one can’t see more than ten steps ahead, so any discovery whatsoever is more or less a question of coincidence. Nobody has had the time or money for such a demanding expedition, and so only rumors remain. Who built them? For what purpose? And do they even exist?
No eye witnesses survive
The completely novel and still unsolved mystery of the Yakutian Valley of death and its cauldrons mesmerized me. To find and explore the mysterious metal hemispheres before they all forever disappeared deep beneath the earth would be a worldwide sensation. Photographs still don’t exist; metallurgists would surely appreciate samples of the rigid yet strangely unyielding metal. The illnesses and hair loss of Yakutian hunters who visited the cauldrons would imply heightened levels of radioactivity in the area. But no one knows what’s in question and how dangerous “it” is. Russian ufologists rushed to present the theory that the cauldrons are the remains of flying saucers wrecked in a mass accident or battle. Russian researcher Dr. Valerij Uvarov even alleges that they are technical istallations generated by a power plant located deep inside the Earth fiery “plasma spheres” made to protect our planet from danger in outer space. Extraterrestrials built them in ancient times and now they operate automatically, he says. They shot down a Tungus meteorite in 1908, a Chulym meteorite in 1984, and most recently, a Vitim meteorite in 2002. Today, the radiation levels there are allegedly on the rise again and the wildlife is leaving the woods, as if in preparation for something. We didn’t believe in UFOs or the black, one-eyed beings: we only wanted to know whether the cauldrons truly exist, and if so, find out what they are.
Specific information about the location of the cauldrons does not exist. Only a vague idea that they’re somewhere near the river Olguidakh, a tributary of the Viliuy, deep in the Taiga. The only thing left for us to figure out how to locate the cauldrons in such a vast area of the impenetrable taiga. Eye witnesses who could lead us there were suddenly nowhere to be found, and blindly blundering on foot in a skirmish line was bound to be a failure. The only viable solution was a birds-eye exploration during a time of year when the snow had melted and the trees were still barren of leaves that would obstruct the ground view. A pilot could explore in an hour what would have taken a month on foot. He would fly over a selected area and videotape the landscape below him. After landing, we would sift the taped material for anomalies in the landscape. But we couldn’t afford a helicopter. One hour costs 1500 dollars. Jirka Zitka, our pilot had acces to a powered hangglider , but after much deliberation, we rejected this option. How would he be able to take off in such a thickly vegetated region, or land the craft in an emergency? In the end, we decided on motor paragliding--that is, flying in a motor-propelled parachute, which allows for takeoff and landing in a small area.
Over the taiga in a parachute
The automobile took off down a dusty road for the town of Mirnyj , abandoning us under a bridge over the river Olguidakh with a heap of equipment and 14 days worth of provisions. I sat on a stuffed field rucksack and gathered my thoughts. What we were about to do was really the only way to penetrate the taiga and while probing both sides of the river. We couldn’t carry the immense load on our backs and even the best-equipped off-road could not traverse the pathless jungle, so we chose a well-tested mode of wildwood transportation—the river. We blew up an inflatable raft, which was soon to become our most irreplaceable companion, and transported the excessive gear and supply on a second smaler inflatable boat.
We sailed through the eerie, dead land with its bare, broken and upturned trees, accompanied by local guide Sláva Pastuchov, a materialistic person who did not believe in legends and who came with us to fish, duck hunt and, most importantly, to help us survive in the taiga. But even he did not feel well in those places and hurried away. Then the land became friendly again an animals reappeared, but another deadly area would follow. They say that the Valley of Death is really a whole chain of valleys around the riverbanks. In order to explore the entire 200-kilometer patch of the river, we split it up into several parts. In each of them, we stopped for a few days and, if the overgrown, swampy banks permitted it, set up camps from which we would embark on expeditions.
Launching a parachute in the taiga was no easy feat. Breaking into a sprint in an uneven marshland full of giant roots and deceitful holes with 30 kilograms on the back required strong legs and lots of experience. Hardly anybody could manage it. No one had ever flown in a motor-operated parachute, and for Pavel Štěpán, our other pilot, the occasion represented a unique athletic achievement.
“I found something!” Pavel yelled to us seconds after landing his parachute, with some bravado. “I saw a strange circle over there,” he said, pointing eastwards of the river. We clustered around the camera and played the taped recording. He was right: In the middle of a monotonous landscape was a strange annulus. With the help of a computer, we compared the taiga photo we obtained from the parachute video recording with Google Earth satellite images to determine the exact coordinates of the circle’s location. Overjoyed at the prospect of finding the first cauldron, we opened a bottle of vodka.
Secrets of the swamp
Despite it being June, we were unfortunate enough to be surprised by a night of snowfall. When the snow didn’t recede by the second day, we lost our patience and went to search for the mysterious spot. We climbed up a low hill, GPS in hand, and scraped through a snowy thicket to a clearing at the top, where we stiffened with surprise. We’d never seen anything like it. It wasn’t the long-sought, smooth, protruding hemisphere, but a circular pond about 50 meters in diameter. In its center, a circular patch of land, approximately 30 meters in diameter and with a flooded opening in the middle protruded from the water. This didn’t look like an ordinary natural formation. Pavel broke off two dry, bare branches and, using them as long poles, headed for the snowy island, wading in fishermen’s boots through the half-frozen water. He climbed onto the snow in the annulus and used the poles to test the earth below him to make sure it wasn’t a treacherous quagmire. Beneath the snow and a thin layer of mud, the pole hit something solid. Was it just ice? Carefully, he continued to the center of the circle, halting in front of the opening. The almost three meter-long pole disappeared beneath the surface. What could he have been standing on? If the hemisphere were made of ice, the current would have melted it. Could it be a giant cauldron, by now almost completely submerged in the frozen earth? The snowy annulus could be the last visible remnant of a smooth hemisphere not yet sunken below the ground, with a flooded entrance in the center.
The snow melted and we were once again fortunate. A few kilometers downriver, we found a similar spot. In a perfectly circular pond, this time only ten meters in diameter, was a smooth, solid, gigantic and slightly curved dome, covered in a layer of mud. With the help of a pole, we groped its shape, but unfortunately lacked the equipment to expose it. We would have had to drain the water and remove the mud. Our expedition was not funded by wealthy sponsors and so we couldn’t afford to load the plane with proper equipment and exceed the weight limit.
Our investigation was further impeded by odd health problems, which manifested themselves after we spent a night near the “sunken cauldrons.” On the following day, I was suddenly overcome by dizziness leading to fainting, a complete loss of balance, choking and chills. Completely without cause. Just like the old Yakutian legends and warnings about the Valley of Death . I couldn’t stand, I was losing my vision and was unable to eat or drink anything. The crisis lasted all day, our tents were buried by another snowstorm, the frost was complemented by a northern gale and we were all soaked. It was as if the evil demons of the Taiga conspired against us. We didn’t have a doctor with us, and when my condition did not improve by the following day, we boarded the raft and spent all night and the next day drifting down the river, fleeing the Valley of Death as fast as we could.
But we weren’t leaving with nothing. We didn’t find proof that the places we found contained the mysterious metallic cauldrons. But we found something else, something just as significant. A pocket of titanium ore!
Coordinates for sale
While searching for the cauldrons, we found yet another place that from a bird’s eye view looked very peculiar. A light-colored, almost perfectly circular plain that turned out to be a circular field of rusty brown boulders. The compass needle went wild there. A magnetic mountain? Probably.
From a geological standpoint, the entire region is unique. Unlike elsewhere in the world, we didn’t have geest and sedimentary deposits underfoot; we trod on the sturdy, igneous Siberian peaks, which originated in the Archean Era. In some places, the peaks are pierced with vents filled with diamond-bearing mineral deposits, which makes them extraordinary. The largest diamond mine lies in the town of Mirnyj , the local regional center from which we embarked on our mission into the Taiga. The now-abandoned crater is 525 meters deep and has a diameter of an incredible 1200 meters. Diamonds, gold, rare elements…with a bit of luck, you can find it all here. Geologists rejoiced at the sight of a rock sample that I lugged from that magnetically anomalous zone in my backpack all the way to Prague . It was magnetite and ilmenite—iron and titanium ore. A very useful stone. Allegedly, we could sell the deposit’s coordinates to the Russians for a very favorable price.
What if the legend-shrouded cauldrons are just uncommon, or, in such measurements, unknown geological formations? Iron caps, or gossans, lava balls, giant spherical concretions, or geodes? The described interior stairwell could well have been imagined by fantasists and ufologists. What’s certain is that the earthly innards beneath the Siberian taiga conceal great wealth and many secrets, not just about precious diamonds but also about cauldrons--a disquieting mystery that remains unsolved.
Ing. Ivan Mackerle, KPUFO.CZ
(Standalone box)
Enigmatic History
Old Yakutian legends described a series of destructive explosions and fire balls blasting from the earth during a battle between the gods Niurgun Bootur and Tong Duurai. Smooth, dome-shaped “iron houses” were left in the ruined taiga after the battle.
1853. Russian Siberian explorer R.K. Maak writes in his book Viliuysky okrug (The Viliuy Region) that the side of a giant, submerged metal cauldron protrudes from the ground near the Vilyuy tributary, but only the rim is visible and there are trees growing out of it.
1908. A yet-to-be-explained fiery ball known as the Tunguzs Meteorite exploded over Siberia . The so-called Chulym Bolid followed in 1984, copying the path of the Tunguzs Meteorite with surprising precision.
1989. N.D.Arkhipov, a researcher into ancient cultures of Yakutia writes in his book Drevnaya Yakutia (Ancient Yakutia) that among the population of the Viliuy basin there is a legend from ancient times about the existence in the upper reaches of that river of bronze cauldrons or olguis.
1996. A small Russian magazine publishes an article by ufologist A. Gutenev about the mystery of the cauldrons and the Valley of Death , which he attributed to extraterrestrials.
2004. Dr. Valerij Uvarov published a longer, more in-depth English version of the article on the internet, making the mystery known to the rest of the world.
East European Association of Paranormal Phenomena Researchers
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Post by blacky on Feb 22, 2010 1:26:21 GMT 10
"In ancient times, the Valley of Death was part of a nomadic route used by the Evenk people, from Bodaibo to Annybar and on to the coast of the Laptev Sea. Right up until 1936, a merchant named Savvinov traded on the route; when he gave up the business, the inhabitants gradually abandoned those places. Finally, the aged merchant and his granddaughter Zina decided to move to Siuldiukar. Somewhere in the land between two rivers that is known as Kheldyu ("iron house" in the local language), the old man led her to a small, slightly flattened reddish arch where, beyond a spiral passageway, there turned out to be a number of metal chambers in which they then spent the night. Zina's grandfather told her that even in the harshest frosts it was warm as summer in the chambers. In days gone by, there were bold men among the local hunters who would sleep in these rooms. But then they began to fall seriously ill, and those who had spent several nights in a row there soon died. The Yakut said that the place was "very bad, marshy, and beasts do not go there". The location of all these constructions was known only to old men who had been hunters in their youth and had often visited these places. They lived a nomadic life and their knowledge of the peculiarities of the area—where one could go, and where one couldn't—was a matter of vital necessity. Their descendants have adopted a settled way of life, so this knowledge from the past has been lost. At present, the only things that point to the existence of these constructions are ancient place names that have survived in part and all manner of rumours. But each of those toponyms represents hundreds, if not thousands, of square kilometres. In 1936, alongside the Olguidakh ("place with a cauldron") River, a geologist directed by elderly natives came upon a smooth metal hemisphere, reddish in colour, protruding from the ground with such a sharp edge that it "cut a fingernail". Its walls were about two centimetres thick and it stuck out of the ground roughly a fifth of its diameter. It stood leaning over so that it was possible to ride under it on a reindeer. The geologist despatched a description of it to Yakutsk, the regional centre. In 1979, an archaeological expedition from Yakutsk attempted to find the hemisphere he had discovered. The team members had with them a guide who had seen the structure several times in his youth, but he said that the area was greatly changed and so they failed to find anything. It must be said that in that locality you can pass within 10 paces of something and not notice it, so earlier discoveries have been pure luck Back in 1853, R. Maak, a noted explorer of the region, wrote: "In Suntar I was told that in the upper reaches of the Viliuy there is a stream called Algy timirbit (which translates as "the large cauldron sank") flowing into the Viliuy.
Close to its bank in the forest there is a gigantic cauldron made of copper. Its size is unknown as only the rim is visible above the ground, but several trees grow within it…"
The same thing was recorded by N. D. Arkhipov, a researcher into the ancient cultures of Yakutia: "Among the population of the Viliuy basin there is a legend from ancient times about the existence in the upper reaches of that river of bronze cauldrons or olguis. This legend deserves attention as the areas that are the supposed location of the mythical cauldrons contain several streams with the name Olguidakh— 'Cauldron
Stream'."
This blurb goes on to discuss the Tungska Explosion, apparently suggesting that the 'cauldron' is what remains after an ancient protective device fired at a meteor...I have no opinion on this, myself as I am not familiar with the subject.
www.talkaboutalternative.com/group/alt.alien.visitors/messages/592596.htmland from the following site: www.forteantimes.com/front_website/themag/there is this very recent news item: "In this issue we follow an explorer into the Siberian taiga as he seeks to uncover the truth behind local tales of olguis, or 'upturned cauldrons', dangerous to all living things, and round-up some other examples of Siberian weirdness. "Czech explorer Ivan Mackerle ventures into Siberia's legendary 'Valley of Death' to investigate tales of strange structures left there by alien visitors or ancient demons" |
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