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Post by brillbilly on Dec 21, 2020 3:27:50 GMT 10
And I wonder what other people might think about that statement. I am personally for vaccination against disease as there is no doubt that it works for the many - even if at times at the expense of the few. I can appreciate (for that very reason amongst others) why people are concerned about the vaccinations currently in use against SARS-CoV-2. But that aside... I am more concerned regarding those who believe that the pandemic is a hoax - that CoViD does not exist as a life-threatening disease to some people - that there is no reason to protect oneself and others against a non-existent (or not potential lethal) virus. Is it not these people - those going around without concern, and without regard for the lives of others, who are doing just as much (if not more) damage to the communities in which they live? I just wonder what others here think of such opinions...
Hi Alexandria,i too am not an anti vaxxer,To my knowledge no members here are from my 11 years being here,but im anti-vaccines that have so many question marks relating to them like Flu, which come under the family name Coronavirus?..and the common name coronavirus is used to refer to any member of the subfamily Orthocoronavirinae. As of 2020, 45 species are officially recognized.So from my intense research regarding the Covid-19 vax..No thank you not for me, as i've seen and read too much to make this anything but safe?.This thread is packed with info,yet what people do with that info is ones personal choice.It's hard these days for someone to question the MSM narratives regarding Covid-19 vaccines,but truth is paramount to understand the bigger picture,and if people think that getting this lab rushed vaccine in to them will let them go back to normal forget it as theres nothing normal about this vaccine...If i have question marks about having this vaccine it's because i can't get it out of me after the event,so i better make sure i know whats going in to me first to make that call!. As to this quote : I have just read the following article : Anti-vaxxers should forgo ventilators, German doctor says And I wonder what other people might think about that statement..unquote!.. well if they also do that for smokers,fat people,anorexic people,alcoholics,self harmers etc then yeah,but to single out some who just dont want this vaccine then thats not fare game!
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Post by alexandria on Dec 21, 2020 5:16:01 GMT 10
Hi Alexandria,i too am not an anti vaxxer,To my knowledge no members here are from my 11 years being here,but im anti-vaccines that have so many question marks relating to them like Flu, which come under the family name Coronavirus?..and the common name coronavirus is used to refer to any member of the subfamily Orthocoronavirinae. As of 2020, 45 species are officially recognized.So from my intense research regarding the Covid-19 vax..No thank you not for me, as i've seen and read too much to make this anything but safe?.This thread is packed with info,yet what people do with that info is ones personal choice.It's hard these days for someone to question the MSM narratives regarding Covid-19 vaccines,but truth is paramount to understand the bigger picture,and if people think that getting this lab rushed vaccine in to them will let them go back to normal forget it as theres nothing normal about this vaccine...If i have question marks about having this vaccine it's because i can't get it out of me after the event,so i better make sure i know whats going in to me first to make that call!. As to this quote : I have just read the following article : Anti-vaxxers should forgo ventilators, German doctor says And I wonder what other people might think about that statement..unquote!.. well if they also do that for smokers,fat people,anorexic people,alcoholics,self harmers etc then yeah,but to single out some who are just dont want this vaccine the thats not fare game!
Thanks for your feedback, brillbilly. I appreciate it. Despite my age and physical vulnerabilities I too have never had a ‘flu jab.
I just realised that I did not (fully) share my own reaction to the statement made in the article. I am stunned by the notion that a doctor would suggest such a thing - even in the deepest moment of frustration! Even without the fact that he is a doctor, it seems to me to be a foolish thing to say - as there is no evidence yet that the vaccine prevents transmission to others. As an ‘expert’ he should be aware of this, no? I also wonder whether such statements will simply serve as fuel for any misinformed theorists on the subject of vaccination as it does appear to have threatening undertones. And so, it provokes the question - what was the purpose of this statement, in reality.
I find virii fascinating, and so I have been following the course of this little beastie very closely. However, in regards to vaccines, I too have my reservations (as I think I may have stated elsewhere here). I agree that there is much going down behind the scenes that the general public is not made aware of.
I do not know what ‘normal’ is - certainly not in the way that the neurotypical mind might know it - it’s a world that is geared to another way of being. I do of course (mostly) understand it on an academic level - but that is not the same as being fully immersed within it - of being a part of something…And so, my ‘normal’ (along with millions of others) is not THE normal. (Which comes, of course, to beg the question; what is normal? It is so many different things to so many different people!) However, I do get your drift regarding getting back to normality. That being said, the status quo has been shattered - those that operate it are swiftly shifting to different positions in order to maintain control - but in the long term, will it be possible to regain supremacy over the changes that are being made? I very much doubt it. Through whichever lens one chooses to perceive current events, things have changed and all that we know will have to pass from one state to another in order to accommodate those changes.
I wholeheartedly agree - truth is paramount. What needs to be taken into consideration is the source of those truths. What is the MSM these days? Does it also include social media platforms and internet websites that offer ‘ independent’ variations of current events? I would argue that it now most certainly does. I would offer the possibility that mainstream media in its strictest sense is a thing of the past. Traditional outlets have been superseded by a number of internet outlets - and that they also include outlets and organisations that are at least as damaging (if not more so in some cases) than the traditional mainstream press. There are of course, wonderful sources within the traditional area that can be trusted to a high degree. (One’s politics may have a bias on that degree, of course.) The mind of the audience at large has changed drastically. The numbers of subscribers to traditional mainstream media have dwindled in direct relation to the growing awareness of the audience that it has for so long been under orders to control. And so, non-traditional media outlets have to be created and/or usurped and utilised in order to continue to carry out the triple D Agenda…There is a big picture, for sure, but that picture is constantly in flux.
I looked into the group that the doctor referenced in the article and came across this:
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Post by Rareclan on Dec 21, 2020 10:04:05 GMT 10
Anti matter of fact, will elaborate on Wilfram Henn as too many thoughts keep me on thread Subtitles available as our languages can be confused @ What Is 'DARK WINTER'? / Hugo Talks
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Post by brillbilly on Dec 22, 2020 0:22:24 GMT 10
@ Alexandria.Thank you for your reply.Your like us as in we're no spring chickens 50+,but you also put your opinions out in a well thought out way.We search for the Truth but don't class ourselves as Truthers or Conspiracy theorists,we're more just parents that have a vested interest in what world will be left for out kids?
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Post by brillbilly on Dec 22, 2020 3:31:41 GMT 10
How Health Secretary Matt Hancock misled Parliament about the Pfizer “vaccine” This is Matthew Hancock announcing the “milestone” of an MHRA approved “vaccine” to the House of Commons yesterday. He reiterated his promise that “no vaccine will be used until its safety and effectiveness have been clearly established”. He added that the Pfizer formulation had been “subjected to the closest scrutiny of the MHRA” and been given “a clinical authorisation”. “This,” he stated baldly, “is a vaccine we can all believe in”. He finally bragged that “this is the first vaccine in the world to have achieved regulatory approval for use against Covid19”. Mr Hancock lied to the House. He further lied to BBCNews viewers earlier in the day, as he told them, “when this vaccine is rolled out, things will get better and we will all return to normality and the things we love”. He doesn’t know that – he cannot know that – and this is emphatically not what the MHRA Pfizer decision says. I apologise now for having to resort to The Science Bit. It is however vital that this reckless little man is held to account. I am indebted to Slog reader Martin for digging out the somewhat obscure links on the MHRA website. The reality of what the regulator has decided blows Hancock’s claims out of the water. You can get the full strength of such “approval” as has been given here. These are the key facts about the Pfizer-Biontech product’s assessment under Reg174 at the MRHA: This medicinal product does not have a UK marketing authorisation but has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care It has no approval at all for people aged under 16 The administration of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 should be postponed in individuals suffering from acute severe febrile illness No interaction or contraindication studies have been performed. In the absence of compatibility studies, this medicinal product must not be mixed with other medicinal products. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is not recommended during pregnancy. For women of childbearing age, pregnancy should be excluded before vaccination It is unknown whether COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is excreted in human milk The effects of the vaccine on fertility are unknown Reporting suspected adverse reactions after authorisation of the medicinal product is important. It allows continued monitoring of the benefit/risk balance of the medicinal product. Healthcare professionals are asked to report any suspected adverse reactions via the Coronavirus Yellow Card reporting site coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk%2Fincoming%2Farticle18159642.ece%2FALTERNATES%2Fs1200%2F4_JS211130386.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
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Post by Rareclan on Dec 22, 2020 4:01:07 GMT 10
Media Blackout: Moderna's FDA Report Lists 13 Total Deaths, 6 In Vaccine Group, 7 In Placebo @ 2:21 Is a syringe with a needle ! right of centre which is a lamppost, talk about jabbing you in the subliminal > BJ to the rescue, Sodom all !
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Post by alexandria on Dec 22, 2020 5:37:00 GMT 10
Anti matter of fact, will elaborate on Wilfram Henn as too many thoughts keep me on thread Subtitles available as our languages can be confused @ Thanks for that, Rareclan.
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Post by brillbilly on Dec 22, 2020 10:13:55 GMT 10
Emanuel Pastreich who was an Independent Candidate for US President. The COVID19 campaign is best seen as: 1. Full-scale class warfare. 2. Artificial intelligence (automation, drones, media and the internet) being used in the battle of the super-rich against the vast majority of humanity. The COVID-19 Pathology: Class and Information Warfare, Algorithms and the Role of Artificial Intelligence - by Emanuel Pastreich who was an Independent Candidate for US President. 'A critical factor ... has been the willingness of the vast majority of public intellectuals and other authority figures to go along with the current false narrative, actively misleading and distracting the general public... 'The manipulation of digital currencies, bonds, derivatives and other financial products, combined with the radical privatization of the banking system has made it possible for a tiny handful of the super-rich, and the swarms of CEOs who buzz around them like flies, to create money out of nothing and to use that money to bribe everyone in a position of authority - or to threaten them. www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-pathology-intersection-class-information-warfare/5732440
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Post by brillbilly on Dec 22, 2020 21:58:08 GMT 10
The Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office Monday announced it is investigating the sudden death of Brandy Vaughn, a well-known Pharma whistleblower and advocate for vaccine safety, who died Dec. 7. Many of her friends and co-activists in the vaccine safety movement suspect foul play. 'Those suspicions have gained traction due to a wave of mysterious deaths - many of them violent -among alternative and integrative medical doctors in recent years. 'In response to this trend, Brandy made a Facebook post almost exactly a year before her death in which she said, “If something were to happen to me, I have arranged for a close group of my friends … to hire a team of private investigators to figure out all the details …”' Here’s what Brandy’s Facebook post said on Dec. 1, 2019 Brandy Vaughan 2 sDtecSeSpomhnsfcbecstor r2edli0St1ic9eh · The post I wish didn’t have to write... But given certain sudden tragedies over the last couple of years, I feel it’s absolutely necessary to post these ten facts...and please screenshot this for the record. 🙏 1. I’ve NEVER had any thoughts of taking my own life, not once, ever. Even before I had my son. 2. I have a huge mission in this life. Even when they make it very difficult and scary, I would NEVER take my own life. Period. 3. Bastien means everything to me and I would NEVER leave him. Period. I have sole custody and he needs me as much as I need him. I would NEVER think of leaving him for a second. 4. I have NEVER been on an anti-depressant nor been diagnosed as depressed — don’t believe it if you ever hear anything like this. 5. I’ve NEVER taken a daily pharmaceutical drug. And I haven’t taken any pharmaceuticals in 10 years (and ten years ago it was one pill, one day). Nothing over the counter, nothing by prescription. In other words, I’m not on anything that could kill me unexpectedly or suddenly. I’ve never done illegal drugs either. Not even once. 6. There’s no way anyone could get into my house, no robbers, no angry exes (which I don’t have btw), no fanatical people — my house is like Fort Knox...unless it was someone super professional. It just wouldn’t be possible for anyone without highly special equipment and tactics (I.e. remotely taking down my high-level security system, which they have done before, unfortunately). But my place is also highly secure in a hard-wired kinda way. So even if the power was out, most people could still never get in. 7. If something were to happen to me, it’s foul play and you know exactly who and why — given my work and mission in this life. I’m also NOT accident prone. And I got the highest health rating possible when I went through a battery of medical tests a couple of years ago for my life insurance policy. 8. If something were to happen to me, I have arranged for a close group of my friends to start a GoFundMe to hire a team of private investigators to figure out all the details (I have the team and have passed the info on to them). Oh, and money fora PR firm to make It national news. There would be a press release sent to every journalist in this country (and more). It would not be swept under the rug, and it would be their worst nightmare. 9. There have been many on this mission or a similar one that have been killed and it’s time this bullshit stopped. The darkness cannot win. 10. I will NEVER stop speaking out for those who no longer can. Even if from the other side, where I imagine I would be FAR MORE powerful. 😉 I have a team of angels surrounding me every step of this journey, but prayers of protection and love are ALWAYS appreciated. 🙏💖✨ childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/police-launch-investigation-death-brandy-vaughn/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=7ef25752-d4e8-46ed-b0ca-842dc57a8e61Top Russian Scientist Alexander ‘Sasha’ Kagansky Working On COVID-19 Vaccine Assassinated In St Petersberg December 21, 2020 A top Russian scientist who was working on a Covid-19 vaccine has been found dead in suspicious circumstances in St Petersburg, adding one more to the list of people engaged in coronavirus research dropping dead mysteriously. Alexander ‘Sasha’ Kagansky, 45, was reported to have fallen in his underwear from a 14th floor window of a high rise flat – and was found with stab wounds. greatgameindia.com/russian-covid-19-scientist-assassinated/
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Post by alexandria on Dec 22, 2020 22:47:33 GMT 10
After leaving the pharmaceutical industry, Brandy spent eight years living in Europe and seeing how healthcare is done very differently outside the US. Brandy VaughanGallbladder complications can take the life out of someone extremely swiftly - within a matter of hours...I would have thought that in this case the investigation into her death would be given priority - for a number of common-sense reasons. That being said, I am sure there are many that would continue to refute a report that did not include possibilities of foul play...
R.I.P. sweet lady.
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