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Post by timetravel02 on Sept 3, 2012 6:37:31 GMT 10
You should be afraid of altering the past as it affects both the future the present and past, and once altered it is impossible to revert no matter how carefully mapped all the variables appear to be. You already happen to exist within an altered line.
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Post by brillbilly on Sept 3, 2012 7:01:22 GMT 10
Just to put some members at ease,do you have one piece of technology from the future that you could show a photo of as you have access to a computer!. Or even a photo of the clothes people wear or can you tell me the date that IRAN was struck with first missile from the west?. or maybe Do you know how much of the UK was covered with water through the so called manmade globel warming that melted the ice caps,do you know when this happened,can you give dates to any major event that happens in the next 10 years. Can you not help me out just a little to understand the future!  |
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Post by timetravel02 on Sept 3, 2012 7:31:18 GMT 10
This line is as technological as mine. For its time and continuation you are actually on track to being more so now. I am in possession of numerous tools loaned to me to accomplish my task. However, would a photo of an object or item be a proof ? I doubt it, it would be easy to fake or manipulate anything as a genuine piece of matter that has travelled through time. Correct ?
Iran as far as I know are not the threat you faced or may be facing. So I would not worry about nuclear weapons, from my poor understanding anyway. The revolt will take care of Iran from within.
Major events on your line ? Why ? You have to understand something, if you change the past, you manipulate the future, so to understand the present you have to have knowledge from both. Correct ? Yet the future is not set in stone nor the past and the variables are so complex , that the present, is the only way to really follow both correctly, yet how do you define present when you are able to cross the divide and blur the line between all the factors.
So I ask you, would you really want to know, if I was to tell you ?
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Post by brillbilly on Sept 3, 2012 8:07:57 GMT 10
One of the reasons i spend so much time looking in to every aspect of life, is because of the unexplained that faces us every day.
But how really do i define the future?
Is it
"The future is separated from the present, of course, by a period of time."
Then how long a period of time from the present is called the future?
Tomorrow? May be, and may be not.
Tonight? May be, and may be not.
Next minute? May be, and may be not.
In fact, no one knows.
May I ask how to define the future?
and how do i define
On Time, Space and Existence
1. A world which is not can not be called existing, because it is not.
2. A world consisting of something unified, homogeneous and continuous can not be called existing, because in such a world there are no parts and, once there are no parts, there is no whole.
3. An existing world must be heterogeneous and have parts.
4. Every two parts are different, because one part will always be thus one and the other that one.
5. If only this one exists, then that one cannot exist, because, as we have said, only this exists. But such a this cannot exist, because if this exists it must be heterogeneous and have parts. And if it has parts that means it consists of this and that.
6. If this and that exist, this means that not this and not that exist, because if not this and not that did not exist, then this and that would be unified, homogeneous and continuous and consequently would also not exist.
7. We shall call the first part this and the second part that and the transition from one to the other we shall call neither this nor that.
8. We shall call neither this nor that 'the impediment'.
9. Thus: the basis of existence comprises three elements: this, the impediment and that.
10. We shall express non-existence as zero or a unity. Therefore we shall have to express existence by the number three.
11. Thus: dividing a unitary void into two parts, we get the trinity of existence.
12. Or: a unitary void, experiencing a certain impediment, splits into parts, which make up the trinity of existence.
13. The impediment is that creator which creates 'something' out of 'nothing'.
14. If this one, on its own, is 'nothing' or a non-existent 'something', then the 'impediment' is also 'nothing' or a non-existent 'something'.
15. By this reckoning there must be two 'nothings' or nonexistent 'somethings'.
16. If there are two 'nothings' or non-existent 'somethings', then one of them is the 'impediment' to the other, breaking it down into parts and becoming itself a part of the other.
17. In the same way the other, being the impediment to the first, splits it into parts and itself becomes a part of the first.
18. In this way are created, of their own accord, non-existent parts.
19. Three, of their own accord, non-existent parts create the three basic elements of existence.
20. The three, of their own accord, non-existent basic elements of existence, all three together, make up a certain existence.
21. If one of the three basic elements of existence should disappear, then the whole would disappear. So: should the 'impediment' disappear, then this one and that one would become unitary and continuous and would cease to exist.
22. The existence of our universe generates three 'nothings' or separately, on their own account, three non-existent 'somethings': space, time and something else which is neither time nor space.
23. Time, of its essence, is unitary, homogeneous and continuous and thereby does not exist.
24. Space, of its essence, is unitary, homogeneous and continuous and thereby does not exist.
25. But as soon as space and time enter into a certain mutual relationship they become the impediment, the one of the other, and begin to exist.
26. As they begin to exist, space and time become mutually parts, one of the other.
27. Time, experiencing the impediment of space, breaks down into parts, generating the trinity of existence.
28. A split down and existing, consists of the three basic elements of existence: the past, the present and the future .
29. The past, the present and the future, as basic elements of existence, always stood in inevitable dependence, each on the other. There cannot be a past without a present and a future, or a present without a past and a future, or a future without a past and a present.
30. Examining these three elements separately, we see that there is no past because it has already gone and here is no future because it has not yet come. That means that there remains only one thing -- the 'present'. But what is the 'present'?
31. When we are pronouncing this word, the letters of this word which have been pronounced become past and the unpronounced letters still lie in the future. This means that only that sound which is being pronounced now is 'present'.
32. But of course the process of pronouncing this sound possesses a certain length. Consequently, a certain part of this process is 'present', just as the other parts are either past or future. But the same thing too may be said of this part of the process which had seemed to us to be 'the present'.
33. Reflecting in this manner, we see that there is no 'present'.
34. The present is only the 'impediment' in the transition from past to future and past and future appear to us as the this and that of the existence of time.
35. Thus: the present is the 'impediment' in the existence of time and, as we said earlier, space serves as the impediment in the existence of time.
36. By this means: the 'present' of time is space.
37. There is no space in the past and the future, it being contained entirely in the 'present'. And the present is space.
38. And since there is no present, neither is there any space.
39. We have explained the existence of time but space, of its own accord, does not yet exist.
40. In order to explain the existence of space, we must take that incidence when time performs as the impediment of space.
41. Experiencing the impediment of time, space splits into parts, generating the trinity of existence.
42. Broken down, existing space consists of three elements: there, here and there.
43. In the transition from one there to the other there, it is necessary to overcome the impediment here, because if it were not for the impediment here, then the one there and the other there would be unitary.
44. Here is the 'impediment' of existing space. And, as we said above, the impediment of existing space is time.
45. Therefore: the here of space is time.
46. The here of space and the 'present' of time are the points of intersection between time and space.
47. Examining space and time as basic elements in the existence of the universe, we would say: the universe expresses space, time and something else which is neither time nor space.
48. That 'something' which is neither time nor space is the 'impediment', which generates the existence of the universe.
49. This 'something' expresses the impediment between time and space.
50. Therefore this 'something' lies at the point of intersection of time and space.
51. Consequently this 'something' is to be found in time at the point of the 'present' and in space at the point of the 'here'.
52. This 'something' which is to be found at the point of intersection of space and time generates a certain 'impediment', separating the 'here' from the 'present'.
53. This 'something', generating the impediment and separating the 'here' from the 'present', creates a certain existence which we call matter or energy. (Henceforth we shall provisionally call this simply matter.)
54. Thus: the existence of the universe, as organised by space, time and their impediment, is expressed as matter.
55. Matter testifies to us of time.
56. Matter testifies to us of space.
57. By this means: the three basic elements of the existence of the universe are perceived by us as time, space and matter.
58. Time, space and matter, intersecting one with another at definite points and being basic elements in the existence of the universe, generate a certain node.
59. We shall call this node -- the Node of the Universe.
60. When I say of myself: 'I am', I am placing myself within the Node of the Universe.
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Post by boxfree on Sept 3, 2012 8:13:58 GMT 10
Just to put some members at ease,do you have one piece of technology from the future that you could show a photo of as you have access to a computer!. Or even a photo of the clothes people wear or can you tell me the date that IRAN was struck with first missile from the west?. or maybe Do you know how much of the UK was covered with water through the so called manmade globel warming that melted the ice caps,do you know when this happened,can you give dates to any major event that happens in the next 10 years. Can you not help me out just a little to understand the future! Ah, Brill....in case you didn't notice. He asks more questions than he answers. Three weeks and we'll know something we don't now know... ;D I think by even addressing this phony we fuel his desire for attention even more...  |
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Post by timetravel02 on Sept 3, 2012 8:25:10 GMT 10
Your reasoning is faulty, I have not had chance to review your message in much detail at this time, and I will in a few hours time, but from what I can gather you believe the universe and your reality to be quantifiable. At the smallest levels masterful illusions can take place, and not only that but it is near impossible to directly measure any of it.
So you pose the question of perception, am I correct ?
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Post by brillbilly on Sept 3, 2012 8:25:36 GMT 10
Just to put some members at ease,do you have one piece of technology from the future that you could show a photo of as you have access to a computer!. Or even a photo of the clothes people wear or can you tell me the date that IRAN was struck with first missile from the west?. or maybe Do you know how much of the UK was covered with water through the so called manmade globel warming that melted the ice caps,do you know when this happened,can you give dates to any major event that happens in the next 10 years. Can you not help me out just a little to understand the future! Ah, Brill....in case you didn't notice. He asks more questions than he answers. Three weeks and we'll know something we don't now know... ;D I think by even addressing this phony we fuel his desire for attention even more... LOL, But it's nice to have someone to talk too,it's better than BT operator ;D "I Just like the star child ok" ,he writes in a futuristic way! That i will name ..."future speak"!.  |
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Post by timetravel02 on Sept 3, 2012 8:35:31 GMT 10
It's always nice to have someone to talk to, whether you think they are deceiving you or not. Boxfree possibly agrees with this sentiment. I speak in future speak ? So are you conversing in Past Speech ? I think it's all relative. So long as you can understand what I type.
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Post by boxfree on Sept 3, 2012 8:35:50 GMT 10
Ah, Brill....in case you didn't notice. He asks more questions than he answers. Three weeks and we'll know something we don't now know... ;D I think by even addressing this phony we fuel his desire for attention even more... LOL, But it's nice to have someone to talk too,it's better than BT operator ;D "I Just like the star child ok" ,he writes in a futuristic way! That i will name ..."future speak"!. ;D I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.... You can talk to me Brill....really. ;D I'm a Star wanna be....I'll get there someday. Maybe I should ask for a palm reading...  |
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Post by brillbilly on Sept 3, 2012 8:42:05 GMT 10
quote;
So are you conversing in Past Speech!
"No i'm rolling a fat one innit"!.........That's common cockney Speech ;D
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Happy New Years Everybody!!!