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Post by shatnerswig on Oct 1, 2009 4:37:51 GMT 10
Hey Wiggy, its truly cosmopolitan we have the same thing here! video not working but that is wierd isnt it? maybe some body smuggled one over here back in colonail times!u r in the uk right ? lots of towns and counties in nj are named after old places in england middlesex, sussex,essex south hampton and on and on ...probably why this devil feels so at home here lol
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Post by Aardvaaks on Oct 1, 2009 4:54:58 GMT 10
Hey Wiggy, its truly cosmopolitan we have the same thing here! video not working but that is wierd isnt it? maybe some body smuggled one over here back in colonail times!u r in the uk right ? lots of towns and counties in nj are named after old places in england middlesex, sussex,essex south hampton and on and on ...probably why this devil feels so at home here lol 2nd time lucky will use this similar link and hope it doesnt break. I like your theory re coming over on the Mayflower or some ship bound for the new world. I am glad the little devil stays over with you guys no offense but your police have guns, ours have a rounded short stick!
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Post by shatnerswig on Oct 1, 2009 5:03:49 GMT 10
nice information there shatner!!!!! yea this is a very weird subject .I actually encountered something that may have been this creature about 15 years ago.... It was unnerving to say the least. I was coming home from work . It was very late at night . about 400 am I pulled my truck in the driveway shut the motor and began to hear this weird noise. It sounded like a woman screaming but not quite right you could tell after a few seconds it wasn't a woman.. this screaming was very loud and really made the hairs stand up ! now the weirder part was it was coming from the tops of the trees in a small wooded area next to my house .. I would hear this freaky loud screaming and then the tops of the trees would move about like there was a pretty large animal jumping around up there after standing there for about 2minutes or the little voice in my head told me to get the hell out of there so I decided it was time to get inside. I went in and grabbed a rifle and began to go back outside to investigate further but something told me better stay inside. I must admit I t was so out of the ordinary it really freaked me out ... I'm no pussy I m a big dude... 6'4" tall about 270 lbs and at the time was a repo man... not much in the world scares me to be honest... but this thing ... what ever was up there... sure as hell did... it was for lack of a better word unnatural...I know most of us here have had encounters with paranormal stuff so I think you know what I mean..... that gut feeling ... anyway thats what got me interested about this guy .
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Post by Aardvaaks on Oct 1, 2009 5:38:49 GMT 10
Its an interesting account, ta for sharing, and the fact that your autonomous nervous kicked in when you couldnt relate anything with the noises and the tree top movement must have left a lasting impression. My own case but not so dramatic by far is an encounter nearby with 2 crop circles, I reckon they were most likely fake but nonetheless it leaves a lasting impression and the desire to understand more...Good one Wiggy, Phaps a night vision scope for Christmas this year if you havent already got one?
PS when you going to post the sweet dog pic?
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Post by shatnerswig on Oct 1, 2009 6:02:42 GMT 10
as soon as I can figure out how to size it correctly not too savvy with the computer .. type with 2 fingers lol!
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Post by shatnerswig on May 9, 2010 5:40:48 GMT 10
Jersey Devil: Horrific Fantasy or Genetic Mutant?Updated: 4 days ago .Print Text Size EmailMore Lee Speigel Contributor
AOL News (May 4) -- It prowls desolate, forested parts of southern New Jersey, killing livestock, leaving behind odd footprints and filling the night air with chilling sounds.
At least that's how legend and folklore describe the creature known as the Jersey Devil. (Not to be confused, by the way, with the New Jersey Devils, the professional hockey franchise named after the legendary creature.)
At the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, N.J., a recently opened exhibit features a variety of artifacts, including reproductions of a Jersey Devil skull, drawings and relics.
Museum owner Kathy Kelly says the story most associated with the Jersey Devil involved a woman who, in the 1700s, prayed for her 13th child to be born a devil. "Shortly after the child was born," says Kelly, "he transformed into a creature that was twice the size of a full-grown man, with cloven feet, wings and talons for hands, and he killed the midwife and then flew off into the Pinelands, where he has terrorized people ever since," according to the story.
Courtesy the Paranormal Museum An artist's rendition of eyewitness accounts of the Jersey Devil. The Pinelands area of New Jersey, according to the National Park Service, was established in 1978 as the country's first national reserve, covering more than a million acres of farms, forests and wetlands -- a perfect environment for an unknown animal to hide in.
Archaeologist Paula Perrault has seen alleged Jersey Devil skulls with both straight and curved horns, and says the Pinelands has a history of "genetic malformations, even in mammals, serpents and humans. A lot of the portrayals in any culture seem to define evil as a serpent crossed with something else -- it's never just a serpent."
Some animals of this Garden State location have been found with abnormalities, including odd colorations, extra appendages and even lizards with extra heads.
From an archaeological perspective, Perrault speculates that there is "some kind of mineral deposit in the area, made up of heavy metal that could be one thing that might cause genetic differences."
Later this year, Perrault plans to trace the various trails along New Jersey's Route 30, where "supposedly there are many petroglyphs [rock carvings dating back thousands of years], and some of them lost over time, where Native Americans depicted an entity that has reptilian features."
"There may or may not be a Jersey Devil creature," says Angus Gillespie, a professor of American studies at Rutgers University in New Jersey. "But from a folkloristic standpoint, it's a fact that the story exists -- this story has been in oral circulation in south Jersey ever since 1735," making it possibly the oldest reported "monster" in America.
Gillespie says many people are reluctant to step forward with their belief for fear of ridicule. He cites a 1909 episode of a number of sightings in the Camden County area.
"Strange tracks were found in the snow, and as a result of these sightings, teams of illustrators and reporters were sent out from various Philadelphia newspapers -- no photographers, just illustrators.
Corbis The Jersey Devil, according to local lore, has haunted a wilderness area in southern New Jersey for nearly 250 years. Here it is depicted in a drawing by Linda Reddington, a writer and artist who has studied this creature of regional legend extensively. "Apparently, these urbanized city-slicker reporters took a satirical and patronizing attitude and wrote disparagingly of it and illustrated it with cartoon-like characters," Gillespie says. "The New Jersey residents reacted, saying, 'Well, if we're going to be ridiculed, we're just not going to talk about it to outsiders.'"
So what exactly are we dealing with here? It kind of depends on a combination of legendary stories, science and your personal point of view.
Kelly, who also owns Paranormal Books & Curiosities in Asbury Park, says there are two schools of thought about the creature. "You have the kind of paranormal, supernatural idea, which suggests that this is actually the son of the devil. And the other possibility is that this is some sort of mutated animal that has not yet been identified by science."
Perrault agrees, saying, "I think it's an animal that's been deformed in some way. There's a lot of things we haven't seen -- just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there."
As she tries to piece together the puzzle of what this particular animal may turn out to be, Perrault doesn't rule out the possibility that it could be an aberration of a quite normal animal.
"From the size, and from the reported physical appearances throughout the ages, I would say it might be a deer, based on the reported skulls, the hooves and the bone structure," she says.
The archaeologist adds that if the Jersey Devil is, in fact, a family of deformed deer that has terrorized New Jersey citizens for centuries, there's a simple answer to why it's been reported as standing up to 8 feet tall on two legs.
"If you go into the woods and come across deer and startle them, they'll stand up on their back feet and get ready to run, and if you find a deer that's injured, he will paw at you and try to attack you," Perrault says.
So if you happen to see a deer in the dark and are frightened by its curved or spiked horns, you may just be misinterpreting something in the shadows or moonlight.
Folklorist Gillespie acknowledges that one of the problems of trying to prove the existence of the Jersey Devil is the lack of any photographic evidence.
"We don't have a photograph, bones, fur, droppings -- there's an absence of hard data," he says. "But the absence of positive proof does not prove the lack of existence of the creature, philosophically. It's just that we may have missed him."
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Post by shatnerswig on May 9, 2010 5:43:41 GMT 10
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Post by shatnerswig on May 9, 2010 5:48:15 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2010 16:25:03 GMT 10
Whatever way you look at it, this is a pretty freaky photo.
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Post by shatnerswig on May 11, 2010 8:07:53 GMT 10
HELL YES D
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